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Тема: "А кто такой IHESVS ?" Предыдущая Тема | Следующая Тема
Астрахань07-06-2018 16:15
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"А кто такой IHESVS ?"


          


Начало в этих темах:

http://chronologia.org/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=263&topic_id=45413

http://chronologia.org/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=263&topic_id=55351

Итак, давайте для начала подытожим.

Есть так называемая христограмма, символ Христа, которая, как считают, раньше означала "Iesus Hominum Salvator".



Перваую букву в этой христограмме очень часто писали по-разному, например, вот так:



так:



так:



и так:



Первая буква все время меняется, а две последние остаются неизменными.

(далее будет)

  

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#1. "RE: А кто такой IHESVS ?"
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04-06-2018 19:25 Mollari

  

          

> Первая буква все время меняется, а две последние остаются неизменными.

Не надо фантазировать!
В первом случае написано IHS, во всех остальных - YHS.
И только.

  

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RE: А кто такой IHESVS ?, psknick, 04-06-2018 20:52, #2
      RE: А кто такой IHESVS ?, Mollari, 04-06-2018 21:22, #3
           Y и V, Igor07, 05-06-2018 01:22, #4
                RE: Y и V, Mollari, 05-06-2018 01:49, #5
                     RE: Y и V, Igor07, 05-06-2018 01:59, #6
                          RE: Y и V, Mollari, 05-06-2018 03:06, #7
                               RE: Y и V, Igor07, 05-06-2018 09:28, #8
                                    RE: Y и V, Mollari, 05-06-2018 11:20, #9
                                         Удаленное сообщение, Igor07, 05-06-2018 11:30, #10
                                         Удаленное сообщение, Igor07, 05-06-2018 11:36, #11
                                         Mollari и Igor07 предупреждение, lirik, 05-06-2018 11:44, #12
                                         Удаленное сообщение, Mollari, 05-06-2018 11:48, #14
                                              Удаленное сообщение, Igor07, 05-06-2018 11:53, #15
                                         RE: Y и V, Igor07, 05-06-2018 11:46, #13
                                         RE: Y и V, Mollari, 05-06-2018 12:29, #18
                                              RE: Y и V, Igor07, 05-06-2018 12:41, #20
                                                   RE: Y и V, Mollari, 05-06-2018 12:58, #21
                                                        RE: Y и V, Igor07, 05-06-2018 13:03, #22
                                                             RE: Y и V, Mollari, 05-06-2018 13:11, #23
                                                                  RE: Y и V, Igor07, 05-06-2018 13:28, #24
                                                                       Контекст - великий и ужасный, Mollari, 05-06-2018 19:58, #29
                                                                            RE: Контекст - великий и ужасный, Igor07, 05-06-2018 23:42, #35
                                                                            RE: Контекст - великий и ужасный, Mollari, 05-06-2018 23:56, #37
                                                                                 RE: Контекст - великий и ужасный, Igor07, 06-06-2018 00:05, #39
                                                                                      RE: Контекст - великий и ужасный, Mollari, 06-06-2018 00:20, #41
                                                                            декоративное украшение, Igor07, 05-06-2018 23:52, #36
                                                                            RE: декоративное украшение, Mollari, 06-06-2018 00:00, #38
                                                                                 RE: декоративное украшение, Igor07, 06-06-2018 00:07, #40
                                                                                      Чужая душа – потёмки..., Mollari, 06-06-2018 00:23, #42
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                                                                                                     RE: Чужая душа – потёмки..., Igor07, 06-06-2018 09:22, #45
                                                                                                          RE: Чужая душа – потёмки..., Mollari, 06-06-2018 10:49, #46
                                                                                                               RE: Чужая душа – потёмки..., Igor07, 06-06-2018 11:00, #47
                                                                            RE: Контекст - великий и ужасный, psknick, 06-06-2018 11:52, #48
                                                                                 RE: Контекст - великий и ужасный, Igor07, 06-06-2018 13:02, #49
                                                                                 Ещё раз о контексте, Mollari, 06-06-2018 15:57, #50
                                                                                      RE: Ещё раз о контексте, psknick, 06-06-2018 19:49, #51
                                                                                           RE: Ещё раз о контексте, Mollari, 06-06-2018 20:59, #52
                                                                                                RE: Ещё раз о контексте, psknick, 07-06-2018 01:11, #53
                                                                                                     О контексте в картинках, Mollari, 07-06-2018 05:46, #54
                                                                                                          RE: О контексте в картинках, Igor07, 07-06-2018 08:54, #55
                                                                                                          Удаленное сообщение, Mollari, 07-06-2018 14:49, #58
                                                                                                               Удаленное сообщение, Igor07, 07-06-2018 15:18, #59
                                                                                                                    Удаленное сообщение, Mollari, 07-06-2018 15:40, #60
                                                                                                                         Удаленное сообщение, Igor07, 07-06-2018 15:49, #61
                                                                                                                              Удаленное сообщение, Mollari, 07-06-2018 16:03, #62
                                                                                                                                   Удаленное сообщение, Igor07, 07-06-2018 16:12, #63
                                                                                                          RE: О контексте в картинках, psknick, 07-06-2018 13:28, #56
                                                                                                               RE: О контексте в картинках, Mollari, 07-06-2018 13:44, #57
                                                                                                                    RE: О контексте в картинках, psknick, 08-06-2018 13:46, #69
                                                                                                                         О контексте и умных ёжиках, Mollari, 08-06-2018 15:16, #72
                                         еще пара христограмм, Астрахань, 05-06-2018 12:20, #16
                                              RE: еще пара христограмм, Mollari, 05-06-2018 12:38, #19
                                              RE: еще пара христограмм, Астрахань, 05-06-2018 13:29, #25
                                                   RE: еще пара христограмм, Mollari, 05-06-2018 20:12, #30
                                                        Сердце Христов, Samsonov V, 05-06-2018 22:39, #33
                                                             RE: Сердце Христов, Mollari, 05-06-2018 23:08, #34
                                              алфавит, Igor07, 05-06-2018 14:52, #28
                                              Старинные буквы, Mollari, 05-06-2018 20:23, #32
                                                   RE: Старинные буквы и... отсутствие некоторых, Веллингбро, 07-06-2018 22:12, #64
                                                   RE: Старинные буквы и... отсутствие некоторых, Igor07, 07-06-2018 22:50, #65
                                                   RE: Старинные буквы и... отсутствие некоторых, Веллингбро, 07-06-2018 23:06, #66
                                                        айн, Igor07, 09-06-2018 08:51, #77
                                                   отсутствие некоторых букв, Igor07, 08-06-2018 00:43, #68
                                                   А, плакатные перья тогда уже были?, Nikson, 07-06-2018 23:30, #67
                                                        RE: А, плакатные перья тогда уже были?, psknick, 08-06-2018 13:49, #70
                                                             RE: А, плакатные перья тогда уже были?, Mollari, 08-06-2018 15:08, #71
                                                                  О Савонароле, psknick, 08-06-2018 19:46, #73
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                                                                                 RE: О Савонароле, Mollari, 09-06-2018 02:04, #76
                                                                                      следы, ведущие в то время, psknick, 09-06-2018 10:09, #78
                                                                                      RE: следы, ведущие в то время, Mollari, 09-06-2018 18:03, #80
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                                                                                                     RE: Датировка по Палее, psknick, 12-06-2018 23:20, #116
                                                                                                     RE: Датировка по Палее, Mollari, 12-06-2018 23:51, #122
                                                                                                     RE: Датировка по Палее, psknick, 12-06-2018 23:42, #118
                                                                                                          RE: Датировка по Палее, Mollari, 13-06-2018 00:01, #124
                                                                                                RE: Датировка по Палее, psknick, 12-06-2018 23:01, #113
                                                                                                     RE: Датировка по Палее, Mollari, 12-06-2018 23:37, #117
                                                                                                          RE: Датировка по Палее, psknick, 12-06-2018 23:43, #119
                                                                                                               RE: Датировка по Палее, Mollari, 13-06-2018 00:26, #126
                                                                                                                    RE: Датировка по Палее, psknick, 13-06-2018 00:49, #127
                                                                                                                         Умный весчь, Mollari, 13-06-2018 01:33, #128
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                                                                                                                         RE: Умный весчь, psknick, 13-06-2018 10:44, #131
                                                                                                                         Боттичелли и Савонарола, Mollari, 13-06-2018 17:29, #133
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                                                                                                                         Объяснение ФиН, КБН, 17-06-2018 23:56, #159
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#17. " RE: А кто такой IHESVS ?"
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Кто такой, кто такой.., Астрахань, 05-06-2018 13:39, #26
      RE: Кто такой, кто такой.., Igor07, 05-06-2018 14:41, #27
      RE: Кто такой, кто такой.., Mollari, 05-06-2018 20:17, #31

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#83. "Святые санитары"
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09-06-2018 21:47 Mollari

  

          

Разбавим немного звериную серьёзность темы, а заодно убедимся воочию в феноменальной плодотворности метода чтения старых надписей по принципу «кому что покажется».

Вот выше была приведена картинка из манускрипта, повествующего, как нас уверяют традики, о жизни и подвигах французского короля Людовика IX:



Но так ли это?

Давайте-ка приглядимся повнимательнее к слову, расположенному между «roy» и «Loys»:



Что оно означает?

Конечно, можно было бы (как тут подсказывают из зала) прочесть его как «Saint», то бишь «Святой», и дело с концом.

Но это – не наш метод! Ведь очевидно же, что всё не так как на самом деле просто, как кажется.

Короче, мы пойдём другим путём (с) и без особого труда увидим, что три вертикальных палочки, выдаваемые традиками за буквы «in», вполне можно прочитать и как «ni». И вот оно: перед нами во весь рост встаёт слово «Sanit», которое, как совсем уж легко догадаться, получилось кастрацией первоначального «Sanitaire».

Ура! Ура нам! Мы только что вскрыли гнусную фальсификацию и выяснили, что Людовик-то на самом деле был не святым, а санитаром.

Ну а что? Философ Марк Аврелий на троне был, так почему бы не быть и санитару Луи?

И это мы восстановили истинный смысл всего одного слова. А сколько ещё тайн там сокрыто (может даже и титульный персонаж никакой не Людовик вовсе?)… Аж дух захватывает!

  

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RE: Святые санитары, Igor07, 09-06-2018 21:51, #84
      RE: Святые санитары, Mollari, 09-06-2018 22:03, #85
           RE: Святые санитары, Igor07, 09-06-2018 22:11, #86
           RE: Святые санитары, Igor07, 09-06-2018 22:24, #87
                RE: Святые санитары, Mollari, 09-06-2018 23:28, #88
                     RE: Святые санитары, Igor07, 10-06-2018 08:50, #89
                          RE: Святые санитары, Mollari, 10-06-2018 10:53, #90
                               RE: Святые санитары, Igor07, 10-06-2018 11:18, #91
                                    RE: Святые санитары, Mollari, 10-06-2018 12:22, #92
                                         rov, Igor07, 10-06-2018 15:03, #93
                                              Не rov, а Roy!, Mollari, 10-06-2018 15:59, #94
                                                   RE: Не rov, а Roy!, Igor07, 10-06-2018 18:03, #96
                                                        RE: Не rov, а Roy!, Mollari, 10-06-2018 19:04, #97
                                                             RE: Не rov, а Roy!, Igor07, 10-06-2018 19:28, #98
                                                                  RE: Не rov, а Roy!, Mollari, 10-06-2018 19:44, #99
                                                                       RE: Не rov, а Roy!, Igor07, 11-06-2018 09:20, #101
                                                                            RE: Не rov, а Roy!, Mollari, 11-06-2018 17:53, #103
                                                                                 RE: Не rov, а Roy!, Igor07, 11-06-2018 19:34, #106
                                                                                      RE: Не rov, а Roy!, Mollari, 11-06-2018 21:18, #107
                                                                                           RE: Не rov, а Roy!, Igor07, 12-06-2018 09:08, #108
                                                                                                RE: Не rov, а Roy!, Mollari, 12-06-2018 16:02, #109

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